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Event Requests xAx Points Tracker Change in PvE Ranking System xAx StevieBizzle 8 Comments · 0 Likes · Like · 10th May 2016 Hello xAllegiancex Guardians!
Long time no post i guess haha and no i'm not dead ( I guess there was some speculation about that circulating out there) and for the new members i'm not a ghostly or ghoulish figure i'm a real person!
Haha with that being said onto a topic the leadership team has discussed over the past few weeks and thats our PvE ranking system was beginning to get out of hand. We we're beginnign to see a quicker turn to get to vice admiral to admiral from newer members in less than 30 days and the goal of the ranking system was to be a challenge to get to the higher tier and with the increased level but the same level of difficulty that was attached to 310 and 320 light level for KF NM and HM the Leadership team was unanimous in having the PvE system go through a point restructure therefore the new system is as such and effectively immediately all administrators will be posting up your points relative to the system below
PvE points can only be awarded by completed an official xAx event. Points are earned by full raid completions.
Vault of Glass Hard Mode - 2 Points
VoG Normal - 1 Points
Crotas End Hard Mode - 2 Points
Crotas End Normal - 1 Points
Kings Fall Hard Mode - 4 Points
Kings Fall Normal - 2 Points
Challenge of Elders- Members can earn 2 points by completing a card (from start to finish) in an official CoE events. An official CoE event consist of two groups of 3 members in one xAx CoE event.
This system was mutually created by the brainstorming visions of the Ambassador team and i just really oversaw the process of this being created by the team and based on what they came up with (which is above) i approved it because it aligns with my vision of what i wanted out of the xAllegiancex calendar and events
I will tell you this what i was not a fan of under the boss completion point system was i felt as if we were rewarding individuals even though we weren't fully completing runs. However with that being said at the time it was created the raid was so difficult that it was a neccesary addition to our point system. However with the increased light level cap and no changes made to the difficulty of the raids now we are seeing average hard mode runs go from an average of 3 hour completion times to about and an hour and a half per xAllegiancex completion! based on this people were doing double or triple runs and averaging 18 points under the old system on some runs which basically gave them 50% of the points they needed to achieve their next rank in one event! this is unacceptable to the integrity of our PvE system and it was nothing that anybody was doing wrong but screamed out a restructure needed to happen. Therefore we have done so after getting majority approval from the administrative team and unanimous approval from the leadership team. remember any concerns relative to change (change can be hard sometime for some individuals) can be redirected PRIVATELY to the ambassador team however i will say this. We have no plans on changing this system with the current state of where destiny is. However i will say this if Destiny and bungie decides on changing difficulty levels of the raids and we see completion times expanding past 2-3 hours again we will once again revisit the system.
Thanks again so much xAx guardians for being awesome and hopefully my time frees up soon to play with all the new faces of xAllegiancex and possibly reconnect with some old faces
14th May 2016 Hootenany1986
I think what eventually will come of this is certain raids groups will be avoided once people start to realize that the specific admin doesnt get clears
ypk2909 · is getting points all you really want? there has got to be a value for playing with clan members and having fun too
14th May 2016Hootenany1986 · not at all, I could care less about points (honestly). More like an observation in response to others concerns regardless of what admins would want the outcome of this to be. Human nature is going to dictate that. Just friendly conversation
14th May 2016ypk2909 · That is true....and I daresay that your post makes more and more sense every time I read it.....but don't worry....I am sure stevie and ambassadors had thought of this before enforcing this
14th May 2016Hootenany1986 · Nothing more I can gain gear wise from this game, only raiding with fellow clan mates and making memories is left for me until the next installment ;)
14th May 2016ypk2909 · those are the best things about this clan :D before the april update, the clan was the only thing that still kept me in destiny :D
14th May 201612th May 2016 PS4 RedGrange123
I see the argument for making points more difficult to earn but what happens if posted raids become more restrictive to ensure a completion? Such as "10 HM clears to join." Where do new (inexperienced) clan members go to get the experience? Back to LFG?
Realize points may not be important to some, especially those who already have admiral rank, but ranking up is important to others, myself included.
Situation: spend 6.5 hours in different raids helping inexperienced clan members learn raid mechanics, but get no clears, so now earn 0 (zero) points.
Solution, earn half the raid's points if team gets to final boss but no complete. Spending 1.5 hrs on Oryx should be worth something. New clan mates are learning something plus there is some sense of advancement for all in the raid group but they will not rank up quickly if this is an issue.
Or just ignore inexperienced groups and seek only experienced groups for the clear? Not how you help new clan matesLike (2) ·
ypk2909 · I totally understand your point red but have a little faith in us admins man :D we have been there too and we are here to get your raids done....if you still find it hard getting into a raid due to the increased restrictions then just post in the forum for it or send any admin a message :D
12th May 2016PS4 RedGrange123 · Ypk, its not about getting into a raid, its that all points are based solely on a clear...all or none. Was in raid last night for 3 hours helping new clan members learn HM mechanics. No clear and my "reward" for helping was zero points. What is the incentive to help out besides it feels good?
13th May 201611th May 2016 PS4 WhoodyWhoKCMO
What happens if we don't get a completion but get the clear from an official CP event at a later time?
PS4 RedGrange123 · Whoody, appears points only from full run -start to finish with a clear at the end. No more checkpoint runs for points, they are for pleasure or learning only.
12th May 2016PS4 WhoodyWhoKCMO · Well that blows
12th May 2016ypk2909 · what red said
12th May 2016PS4 WhoodyWhoKCMO · Maybe they should change points needed to rank up instead of the points awarded. Maxing out at 400 seemed kind of low
12th May 2016PS4 WhoodyWhoKCMO · I have to say this is the first negative comment I've had about this clan
12th May 2016ypk2909 · not really whoody...it is quite justified....this point system stresses on the fact that the team will have to complete the said activity in order to rank up....cause this is what separates us from lfg yes? we get things done and if we don't then there shouldn't be any ranking up..
12th May 2016PS4 WhoodyWhoKCMO · So we spend 2-3 hours in a raid that is glitching all over the place and finally get to the final boss and understandably the admin has to call it on time and we get nothing for our effort through no fault of our own. Where's the lesson in that
12th May 2016PS4 WhoodyWhoKCMO · I don't have a problem with the fewer points for each event, adjustments have to be made, I get that. the issue I have is in the raids you only get points for a full clear. Where as in challenge of elders all you have to do is fill your card in one session, you can do that in less than an hour
13th May 2016PS4 WhoodyWhoKCMO · If you clear your CP in an official event you should get the points, that's all I'm asking for.
13th May 201611th May 2016 subfm
Sounds good, The raid is a lot eaiser now with everyone getting higher light very fast. One thing tho are we going to add another PVE level for people to aim for, Myself included I got to admiral pretty fast with the 6 point raids and points per boss, So would be awesome for another level to aim for11th May 2016 PS4 Hzarz_Kar
Thanks for the update. I'm ok with the changes - when I achieve a rank, I would like to think that my effort is worthwhile. If I get it too easily, it naturally doesn't mean too much to me.Like (1) ·10th May 2016 PS4 DwolfDragon
is this effective from this point forward or will it affect points on the raids I ran last week that havent been awarded yet?
ypk2909 · effective immediately I assume
10th May 2016PS4 DwolfDragon · i expected that any raid after this would be under the new point system, what I meant is it going to be retroactive to completed raids that the administrator has not gotten around to awarding points for yet. will I get 6 points for the KF HM raid I completed on Sunday or will I only get 4
10th May 2016xAx StevieBizzle · this is effective for points on events after the post time of this news post so if you had past events up you still havent allocated points for it will be reflective on the old point structure
10th May 2016PS4 DwolfDragon · Thanks StevieBizzle. I dont get a lot of points every week and finally made enough to rank up :)
10th May 2016P_Rigz · Good question Dwolf! I was wondering this, I'm waiting for 4 points to be awarded to FINALLY get over 50 points! :) Haha
11th May 2016PS4 RedGrange123 · Wonder if new "completion of raids" for points will cause training raids to go away. Spent 3 hours trying to help a group of new clan members thru HM but did not get a complete. Will it come to: Required- 15 HM completions and LL 335 to join." Back to LFG to get HM experience?
11th May 2016Sig_shezza · @red training raids will stll be run
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